Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro
This month, we took a slight departure from reading new releases to discuss the 1980’s classic, The Remains of the Day. It was lovely to catch up with the group again and welcome a new member, despite it being a dark and damp evening. As always, thoughts and further reading/watching below. Please feel free to comment.
Nearly all of us had read it and finished it.
Heard Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson’s voices while reading it (the stars of the film).
Very slow-paced, could be a bit samey.
Some found it an easy read, but not massively engaging, due to a lack of action.
Dignified.Duty, dignity and grit come up many times throughout.
What has Steven’s missed out on? Does he know?
Back then, butler’s didn’t marry. But his father must have?
His mother is never mentioned.
Steven’s is an odd character, very set in his ways.
Some still feel like its a love story. All that is unsaid.
Some want to shake him! But also angry at the way he was treated by people. The classism.
Some felt sad that it took a stranger to remind him to make the most of his time.
The most English story ever.
‘Too much Celt in me to enjoy it!’ in reference to Steven’s saying that only the English make good butlers.
Does Steven’s have autistic tendencies? Social awkwardness.
His pride in how he managed his fathers death. Felt very tragic, despite the fact that he felt peace with it.
He has no social norm to adhere to as he doesn’t socialise and has no social group.
In some ways, he is self-aware. Analytical and critical.
Insight into the upper classes.
Moderism/modernisation/transistion. Britain is changing.
There was immaturity on the side of Miss Kenton too.
Sense of duty.
He didn’t leave the house whereas she did.
He must have known what was going on with Darlington.
Interesting that he always attributes opinions to others.
Similarities with Downton Abbey.
Wondered if some aspects were inspired by the book.
He’s a spectator. He compartmentalised everything.
The odd request of Steven’s to have the birds and the bees conversation. There to show that he has some awareness? A moment of dark humour.
Why doesn’t he correct the townspeople when they assume he’s a Lord of some sort. maybe he wants to spare their embarrassment?
Marked difference between when he is talking about his ‘tour’ compared to reflecting on the past.
He gains a wider perspective on the outside world. Freed from the job.
His lack of concern for her when her Aunt died!
Just hearing snippets of the Darlington story made us really intrigued. We would read a book about that!
A good picture of life as it was then.
Do people still have staff?
Steven’s and Miss Kenton were stuck in the social structure of the day.
Their jobs would have been desirable/sought after.
Faraday really seems taken with the English way of life.
She did love him. he would have infuriated her though, if they were together. He might have changed under her influence.
Hers was also a story of duty. Heart-breaking.
Never hear her perception.
We then discussed whether we were satisfied with the ending, and then endings in general!
- The Remains of the Day Film (plenty of Oscar noms!)
- On Chesil Beach by Ian McEwan
- A Pale View of the Hills and An Artist of the Floating World (first two novels by Kazuo Ishiguro
- The Buried Giant by Kazuo Ishiguro (very different)
- Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
For something completely different, we’ll be meeting on Tuesday 17th December to discuss The Mars Room by Rachel Kushner, with some mince pies! Our 2020 books are up now and should be in the Insole Court Visitors Centre before Christmas so plenty of time to get ahead of the game.